LDN und andere Medikamente (Forum)

thaddaeus @, Montag, 27. Oktober 2008, 15:58 (vor 3309 Tagen) @ Günna

Hallo Günna,

ich habe dies gerade einmal aus der LDN-yahoogruppe herauskopiert, ich denke es ist o.k., weil Allgemeingut. Es sind allerdings die englischen Medikamentennamen, vielleicht hat Tom noch einen deutschen Text.

Do not take LDN (Naltrexone) with any of the following:


• disulfiram (Antabuse);
• thioridazine (Mellaril);
• buprenorphine (Buprenex, Subutrex);
• codeine (Tylenol with Codeine, and other brand names);
• hydrocodone (Lorcet, Lortab, Vicodin, Vicoprofen, and other brand names);
• hydromorphone (Dilaudid);
• levorphanol (Levo-Dromoran);
• meperidine (Demerol);
• methadone (Dolophine, Methadose);
• morphine (Kadian, MS Contin, MSIR, OMS, Roxanol, Oramorph SR, and other brand names);
• oxycodone (M-Oxy, OxyContin, OxyIR, Roxicodone, Percocet, Percodan, and other brand names);
• oxymorphone (Numorphan); or
• propoxyphene (Darvon, and other brand names).

· Ultram (tramadol)

· Novantrone

· Rebif

· Avonex

· Betaseron

· Tysabri

· Chemo's

· Cellcept is a chemotherapy

· methotrexate

· Remicade - Called Skip's Pharmacy at the suggestion of people in this group, and the pharmacist there told me you have to be off Remicade for 50 days before starting LDN. Since the two meds have opposing effects on the immune system, LDN won't work while on Remicade. http://www.skipspha rmacy.com/

· 6MP - called Skip's about 6MP they said you should be off it for about a week before starting LDN.
It sounded like you wouldn't want to take 6MP concurrent with LDN, since 6MP is an immunosuppressant and would have opposing effect on immune system as LDN.

· Humira

Dr. Jill Smith said to stop Humira for 2 weeks before starting on LDN.

And this was the reply I got when I asked the question if we had to stop Humira before starting LDN on the LDN website:

A person with Crohn's who receives Humira can begin LDN immediately (because H. is not a narcotic and thus is not contraindicated) -- however, Humira's effects in suppressing the immune system can seriously blunt the potential benefits from LDN (which should strengthen the immune system). The sooner off Humira, which is dangerous, the better.

Ø Cautionary warnings:

Because LDN blocks opioid receptors throughout the body for three or four hours, people using medicine that is an opioid agonist, i.e. narcotic medication — such as Ultram (tramadol), morphine, Percocet, Duragesic patch or codeine-containing medication — should not take LDN until such medicine is completely out of one's system. Patients who have become dependant on daily use of narcotic-containing pain medication may require 10 days to 2 weeks of slowly weaning off of such drugs entirely (while first substituting full doses of non-narcotic pain medications) before being able to begin LDN safely.

I believe that steroids, short term, are ok with LDN.

Dr. Skip


Der letzte Satz also: Dr. Skip denkt, dass Kortison über kurze Zeit mit LDN kein Problem ist. Ich persönlich denke auch, dass dauerhaft geringe Dosen Korti (-10 mg) ok sind, weil es ja auch vom Körper selbst täglich hergestellt wird.


Gruß taddel


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